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October 02, 2009

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Cyndi

Agreed -- don't know why anyone wants a gun in the house when they have children (of any age). And I really really (thankfully) can't imagine what that family is going through now.

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This is awful. This is a tragedy. There is no way I would minimize it in the least. However, let's get some perspective.

In the US Census Bureau Statistical Abstract for 2009:

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/births_deaths_marriages_divorces.html... Read More

are the latest available figures for deaths (2005).

In the category of accidental deaths from birth to age 14, there were 75 from accidental discharge of firearms. There were 82 from falls and there were 810 from drownings.

All I'm saying is that the world is an awful brutal place, some brutality is the fault of man, some brutality is because of natural happenings and some brutality is just accidental tragedy. Stuff happens and bad stuff happens to good people.

We should always do the best we can to eliminate tragedy where we can. But it is our misconception, naivete and arrogance that we can rid the world of tragedy if we just do the right things.

ilinap

Hear! Hear! I hate guns and don't see a need for them in the home. Period. If you hunt, go to the vault and check out your weapon and return it when you're done. I know no such vault exists, but it should. Tragic. Tragic. Tragic.

Don Tremaine

There are two sides to the gun story. It's not just about the fact that there are accidents involving guns. There are millions of defensive cases each year that potentially saved lives. Cars are big killers, but most people would agree that these are simply accidents and what can be done to help this situation. You need to put this into perspective. Fear of tools (guns in this case)is not normal. This fear is a result of ignorance, (lack of knowledge). There are so many ways that people can die through accidental events. It's It is not reasonable to single out one of the safer objects to ban because of fear.
Don

marty

Points taken, but as far as cars go, we require people who drive to pass a test and obtain a license stating that they are capable of driving.

There is currently a hand gun in our home. It is locked in a safe, and there is no ammo in the house. For various reasons - the first being that I have no training to use it and there are children in the home.

The problem as I see it is that certain objects, in this case, guns, are dangerous. Cars were designed to provide transportation and unfortunately cause harm and death sometimes in the process.

Guns were designed to hurt, maim, and kill. That is their function. I don't see how a fear of that is irrational. The purpose of a gun, whether you use it for protection, hunting, or criminal activity, is violent. There is no side stepping that fact.

Don Tremaine

Marty,
First of all, there is no mention in the Bill of Rights about driving a car. If cars existed in 1776 they would have been included. Registering or banning guns is just not legal. Have you ever heard of "Prior restraint"? You can't be punished because you either have the means to commit a crime or someone thinks you could or would commit a crime.

Guns are not necessarily meant only to hurt, maim, and kill. There are millions of events every year where citizens stop a crime with a gun without ever firing a shot. Your idea of guns only having a purpose of violence is strange. I mostly use my firearms for recreation. I love to shoot clay birds, target shooting, collecting, gun smithing....

A gun that is sitting on a table will hurt no one; a person must pick it up and do something stupid for an innocent to die or be harmed.

I fear cars more than guns, because good people with guns are very safe. On the other hand good people are too caviler about cars. The reason that so many die by cars is the fact that people are not respectful of the dangers cars represent. Oh it was just an accident and I'm sorry the other person died. Try that with a gun, dead is dead. The death tolls from gun accidents is very low statistically compared to slipping in the tub.
Guns is general are not dangerous it's criminals misuse that is the problem.
Did you know that in places where gun registration is required, even though that is illegal, criminals are are not required to register any guns. The 5th amendment protection does not require them to incriminate themselves. Isn't registration supposed to help the police find bad guys. How does it help the police if only the honest citizens register their guns and no criminals do?

Do you know why there is a right to keep and bear arms? It's to protect you from the government. Every country that has turned into a totalitarian regime has used gun registration records to confiscate guns. I am extremely suspicious of politicians that are anti-gun; what is their real agenda?

It is the personal responsibility of every gun owner to learn gun safety. Both of my children were taught gun safety from a very young age. Both started to shoot at the age of four under my close supervision. My son is now 36 and is the safest person I have ever met with a gun. He can not remember when he did not handle guns. This is an America tradition.
Don

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